What we learned from Ardern-Collins debate. And how’s that economy, eh?

In the aftermath of the first leaders' debate, Stuff political editor Luke Malpass chats with Adam and Eugene about what we learned. ANZ chief economist Sharon Zollner joins the show to explain the size of the economic hole we’re in and whether there’s anything much politicians can do about it. Eugene busts out a new song. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices