Jen is joined by Reed Galen and Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project to discuss the fight to take down Trump. A fight they’ve waged since he revealed his authoritarian tendencies. They explain why he can’t be fought like a normal candidate, how the media gets played by conservatives, and argue that defeating him is a battle for democracy that goes beyond party divisions. Together, they explore how he fooled Republican voters, his use of vengeance while wielding power, the impact of his court cases, Kevin McCarthy’s failures, and how Trump’s primary challengers can gain ground. Will our democracy be able to survive him?