Musician Orville Peck joins the show. Over deli classics, Orville tells me how a South African kid grew up obsessed with country music, why country is actually a global genre, and we bond over our love of "RuPaul’s Drag Race." This episode was recorded at Nate 'N' Al's in Beverly Hills, CA. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices