We all believe diversity, equity and inclusion to be important, but bridging the gap between the intent and the positive outcomes it brings is no easy task. For Marsha Ramroop, that bridge is cultural intelligence, and she joins Pia and Dan to pose vital questions about inclusion that have surprising answers.

After a career in broadcasting spanning 30 years, Marsha discovered the notion of cultural intelligence, and founded a consultancy and worked as Head of Inclusion at RIBA, so she could influence the creation of inclusive spaces.

Takeaways from Dan and Pia

• “When all you've known is privilege, equality can look like oppression,”
• Being in an out group can feel like a constant battle to change the majority mindset, but it’s the majority that needs to make the effort.
• Exclusion isn’t only about skin colour, sexuality, or physical disability – it can be about finding differences in the way we think.

Links

• Connect with Marsha on LinkedIn
• Unheard Voice Consultancy
• Strangers to Ourselves: Discovering the Adaptive Unconscious, by Timothy Wilson
• School Culture Rewired: How to Define, Assess, and Transform it, by Steve Gruenert and Todd Whitaker
• Cultural Intelligence Center
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