This week, Gigi talks to Kade Gottlieb aka Gottmik: the first openly trans man to compete on RuPauls Drag Race. We learn how Kade discovered his trans identity, the mental process of becoming Gottmik, why we should all do drag, and the life changing advice RuPaul gave him. Kade also discusses his struggles with depression and where cis people need to do better when it comes to discussing trans identity! Produced by Michael Lane Jingle by Rhys Tivey Follow Gillian on Instagram and Twitter: @gilliansagansky Follow Gottmik on Instagram: @gottmik A Type7 podcast https://type7.com/. A RecTag production.