The Notre Dame Cathedral caught fire on Monday and one week on continues to make international headlines.
So what now?
Today's guest Philippe Hertzberg runs a tour company called Secret Journeys that does very close work with the cathedral. In fact, he was at the cathedral when it caught fire.
Philippe talks about the fire, the history of the cathedral, and its future - explaining how renovation, restoration, and rebirth have long been themes of this iconic Parisian landmark.
Find out more about Secret Journeys here (they do tours of a lot more than just Notre Dame, of course, including Versailles very soon).
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